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4 November 2009

Marisha Bonar

Sorry as I already commented on the 07th of July.....but wish to be more honest about why I'm so divided in my own feelings about this subject......For me, every case is unique.

Sorry as well for this boring and personal story, still wish to express my Feelings:

This touches really me a lot.....

Most Members of my own Family -on my Mother's side- were murdered by the fucking nazi's -CAN'T , DON'T wish to write nazi in Capital Letters!!!!!-. My own Mother was 1 year in a concentration camp, and 1 month away from being transported to Auschwitz. She, even now, remembers every single detail, and was only a kid when she was taken in one of those beautiful trains there.....

Yes, the nazi's exterminated many many many Disabled People.....but/and in my own opinion, created so many many many Disabled People as well, impaired Children, Woman, Man, for the remaining of their days ...... I can just see/feel that in the very little that remains of my own Family,the ones who just survived.....I saw some of my Family with the numbers on their arms....Some wished they didn't survived .... My Mother has been ordered by a judge to be internalized in a psychiatric hospital, where she is letting herself die, and I can't do anything to stop her. Even if I've tried ,and I believe that I've tried my best(??????), at the end of the day, who am'I to tell her anything???It's Her wish,Her choice. My Grandfather commited Suicide as well......YES, assisted suicide-NOT in Dignitas, but through the Black Market in Hungary- as he was left paralysed and could NOT move to do it himself.He would have.

All my Respect to ALL of them !!!!!!

Sorry for getting so personal.....or should I be sorry for sharing this????

Marisha =^.^=

For ALL of those who are against Suicide/assisted

Suicide......Might be you/we should only try for a second to put ourselves in their skins???????

26 August 2009

Crippen

Daniel James chose to end his life at the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland in September 2008. For further information please go to the following web link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4969423.ece

30 July 2009

Olivia James, sister of Daniel James

Let me start by saying that i think you and anyone who sees any humour in your vulgar cartoon is sick and nasty!For me and im sure many other people will agree this is the difference between yourself and my brother as individuals. Either able bodied or disabled he would never make fun of anyone or their families in a truly tragic situation. Its people like you who give a very poor perception of people with disabilities. We have not and will not make it our place to give our opinions on how other people should live their lives or how they choose to end it. Ultimately they are the only ones who have the right to choose. How is it that if your life is so happy and fulfilled you need to spend your days creating twisted cartoons thats lets face majority of people would not find remotely funny!i would really like to know how you are supporting disabled with this kind of micky taking behaviour?!There is absolubtely no camparison between you and my brother as you are a disgrace to any human being with a heart.

9 July 2009

Richard Downes

another final solution though somewhat local

9 July 2009

sanda

In haste last comment, I forgot to say how much I like the cartoon with the letter.

I shall visit all the art and blogs. One by one, as can. Thanks for your welcome.

9 July 2009

Clair Lewis

There is no dignity in death, in death there is nothing at all.

Quality of life is not improved by killing, it is permanently denied.

I want dignity and quality while I am alive, and everyone should be entitled to it - disabled, sick, or otherwise.

I had to face the possibility first of my daughter's and then my own death in my early twenties and I am now 36. Luckily I got to live and be a disabled person instead. Every day is a gift and its glory is mine.

Clair Lewis

~ may the joy of each new day flood you with pride and power ~

8 July 2009

Jodie

Protesters who scream 'EUGENICS', 'Nazi sympathiser' everytime the euthanasia debate is raised are doing the cause more harm than good imo. When you see someone you love slowly die in pain it can give you a different perspective. If a loved one asked me to help them I would say Yes (out of love and respect for them) and deal with the legal ramifications at a later date. If I had to go to jail for my beliefs then so be it.

8 July 2009

Crippen

Stephen Drake's critique of Tom Shakespeare's essay can be found on - http://networkedblogs.com/p7152207

8 July 2009

Crippen

Hi Sanda,

thanks for logging on and sharing your web site information. Hope you'll become a regular visitor. Kind regards, Crippen

8 July 2009

Sanda Aronson

I just heard about your website on NotDeadYet. Nice to meet you.

My skills won't get an image on, so I'll post where my art is online. (I started the Disabled Artists' Network, April 1985 and it's still "running". A mail and pen-network. I'm newly online and still a beginner. My art is at:

www.artistlightbox.com/sandaaronson

(My humor went in the direction of inventing

the femalized version of the universal

wheelchair symbol. I'm an older feminist, as well as being disabled and wheelchair user.)

8 July 2009

Stephen Drake

To Liz:

Lots of people at any given time want to kill themselves. Many who do would love the opportunity to get approval for it and to have someone make sure they don't screw it up.

Unless we're offering this "help" and approval to *everyone* who is serious about killing themselves, it's really not about respect or choice.

As long as it's a "right" only given to old, ill and disabled people it looks a lot more like "culling the herd." --Stephen

8 July 2009

liz porter

Like many above, I am devided in how I feel about this difficult issue. But surely if we are to subscribe to the 'social model', then people must be allowed to make their own choices around life and how they might choose to die. It's certainly not clear cut. What I am certain off though is that as a 'communityin collective voice, we can work towards ensuring that people are given comprehensive information. See disabled people in positions of power living full lives, show disabled people in films, tV radio dramas not just as tragic but brave but as real rounded invidiuals, with human emotions and having to make complex decisions on an everyday basis, and coming through. It is not my place to make a 'moral' or personal decision for someone else.

8 July 2009

Alison Davis

If Tom Shakespeare were right about "choice" being pre-eminent, I would not be here now. Some years ago, I wanted to die - a settled wish that lasted 10 years. Had assisted suicide or euthanasia been available then I would have requested death. I would have qualified under the criteria for assisted suicide because as well as several disabling conditions, at that time doctors thought (wrongly as it turned out) that I was terminally ill. Sometimes our "choices" are wrong. To suggest otherwise is to conclude that it wouldn't have mattered much if I had died then, even though, as it turned out, the best of my life still lay ahead in the future.

8 July 2009

Colin Revell

To quote Nabil Shaban from facebook...

... No one should ever be given permission to kill another person. No one can be trusted to be assisting suicide for purely unselfish and so-called "humane" reasons. I believe anyone who wants to die, can and will die without any assistance. If the mind and soul is genuinely ready for death, then death will come. If animals can do, then so can humans. No matter how physically incapable a person seems to be, if they want to die, then their mind WILL switch the body off...often in the form of a brain haemorrhage or heart attack.

We should not be allowing doctors to end the lives of patients in their care, with such evil practices as DNR...i.e. Do Not Resuscitate...depriving of food and water etc...and we should not give people, whether they be friends, family, spouses, the power to end another person's life. Here lies the slippery slope towards enforced euthanasia of unproductive and unwanted consumers...and the next step to Hitler's murderous eugenics programme of gassing disabled people.

The DARE videos

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_e9KnIfSqwE... Read more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPH4v1kOjpk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQKpW0BtzlM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUf4VPvN_Ro

8 July 2009

Colin Hambrook

The issues around assisted suicide are incredibly complex. One of the barriers to a rounded debate is that there are no positive images in the media of disabled people living with complex impairment needs. The lack of a real sense of power and control over our lives is a problem that society continually puts in our path as disabled people. Decisions are in the hands of professionals all the way down the line and so often there is such a lack of consultation. On the other hand though we, as a movement, do not have the moral right to deny people the choice of assisted suicide if that is their wish. There are no simplistic answers. We need more accountability from within the medical profession. Fundamentally it is a debate about the value of human life and the arguement about assisted suicide impacts on

arguments about the moral right to impose war. We need more objective open debate than the kind of demonising of individuals for not having beliefs that concur absolutely with our own.

7 July 2009

I think Tom is naive in his implication that 'humans' can't be coerced? Those within the mental health system are so often coerced into taking 'chemical coshes.' How can we trust those 'In-Power'?

As Jane Campbell rightly stated that this bill can't be given the 'Green Light', .... If it doesn't then the 'final-solution' within humanity; 'the slippery slope', is just around the corner for all humanity, especially those with 'Lives' Unworthy Of Living'... THE POOR!!!

FREE OUR PEOPLE

Colin Revell

7 July 2009

Stephen Drake

Have you been reading the same news I have? The parade of nonterminally ill people going to Dignitas to die with "dignity"? The feigned shock (shades of Casblanca) from Dying with Dignity and bioethicists when an analysis came out a few weeks ago elaborating on the obvious? Did you notice how easily the public shrugged off the suicide of Daniel James as pretty much the same thing as someone dying finding "dignity" in death?

I would like to know what you think about the euthanasia advocates' willingness to conflate disability and terminal illness? -Stephen Drake

7 July 2009

Dave Lupton

Just heard that the Lords voted to defeat the amendment to the Coroners and Justice Bill by 194 to 141.

7 July 2009

Colin Revell

Do you remember the 'Nazi Eugenic Programme and Nazi 'Disability' Holocaust?..... Do you really trust others with making the right decisions of who should have assistive dying/suicide and that our lives will not be commodified and decisions will be based on 'Who's Life Is Unworthy? What about the 'poor'?

The 'grassroots' Disabled Peoples' 'movement can build on this victory for 'assistive-living!!!

7 July 2009

Dave Lupton

Read Tom's article on - http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/07/assisted-dying-terminally-ill-disabled

7 July 2009

Tom Shakespeare

I think this petition is fundamentally misconceived. Disability activists should not be seeking to deny terminally ill people choice at the end of life. Surveys show that the majority of disabled people do not oppose assisted suicide. Nor are disabled people at risk of being coerced into death. Disability rights is about having control over your life, and if terminally ill, over the time and manner of your death. That's what "choices and rights" means. Not just "we support your choices as long as we agree with them"

7 July 2009

Marisha Bonar

Hiya Dave,

I need to be Honest with this,

I'm sorry as I don't have the great use of the English language to express my feelings about this matter in a better way, so I'll do it in my best way:

I can't/don't wish to sign a petition which is circulating at present to stop the amendment proposed,as at this very present stage, I'm very divided within my own beliefs, about this issue....

I need to be clear first about this very difficult subject...and I'm not......

I have to admit sincerely that I do fully agree with assisted Suicide in some cases and do not in others....I just can't put it as a WHOLE, as in my own belief, each case of whoever decides to go ahead with assisted suicide, is a very personal and individual case.Personaly, the idea that we, People, have the right to live should in my own opinion apply as well to us People, who should have, the right to die, in a dignify way, if/whenever we choose to.....Who is who to control our lives and death??

If it's a debate which already creates such a division....I'm divided in my own beliefs about it.....

Marisha

PD: Sorry as I can't even comment about your cartoon this time.....

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